Objectives. It exists to deter players from gaining Justice Points at a dungeon by attending but not participating. Is that even a thing? They had no idea when you were coming back, so you got a kick. Remove any Debuff in the Game even Deserter and Ress sickness Register to remove this ad. It exists to deter players from gaining Justice Points at a dungeon by attending but not participating. And I still believe that, for the same reasons, the deserter debuff should be reworked. ... Wow, were they ever wrong, Mer. You seek information to use against them? Uhhh ok…? Id rather the very occassional innocent, like you claim to be, get done and the vast majority of griefers/tossers get done as well, rather than the tossers get away with it … lets face it, theres a lot more unpleasant players that deserve it than decent innocent ones who don’t. I would suggest to fix the root cause and not the minor inconvenience you experience.
If you were the judge you would just throw all of them on the electric chair, just to be sure that the guilty ones do not get away with it?

Oh please. Thanks for sharing with us this important information, I guess? You can’t really believe that the majority of players who DC, do that on purporse.
I just want to see WoW improve in a lot of ways, the same as I … I can´t leave because I'll get the deserter debuff for 30m. Also dungeon deserter apply only until first boss is killed, so not a big window of time. Deserter debuff after being kicked out form an instance really needs to be removed or reworked. Will I get the deserter debuff if I leave after a wipe?

So you either have some problems at reading or you’re just here to give vent to your IRL frustration. And when I say 3 minutes, I mean 3 minutes, literally. Also, you probably didn’t read carefully as I never said I have a problem with the fact that I got kicked in first place, but with the debuff one gets afterwards. That is true! It’s because alot of players are very sensetive so to not get any backlash they fake-dc so your group probably assumed thats what you did since its such a common thing. As part of the Unified Community Platform project, your wiki has been migrated to the new platform. It also prevents players from leaving a dungeon due to an unfavorable matchup, and instantly joining another with the hope of a better matchup. Unfortunately it was worse in the beginning when there was no deserter debuff for being kicked because people who for example didn’t like the random dungeon they were in would act purposely like jerks to be kicked and be able to requeue without penalty. Usually, some one votes to kick, then other mindlessly press YES because they want to get rid of annoying pop-up window in the center if the screen while fight may be ongoing and players need to react. Dungeon Deserter You abandoned a dungeon and must wait before using the Dungeon Finder again. You can’t really know if the person that went offline dc, alt f4 or whatever. On that I’m more than fine, and I said that from the start. This sentence is very subjective: if you feel that 30 minutes of your life are worth nothing, good for you. While I can understand and accept the fact that I got removed from the group by the other members, I absolutely don’t see the need of getting the debuff. After that I was labeled a deserter. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. There is also a version of this that is obtained from leaving a battleground before the end. because you could have tactically DC’d with the intent to annoy your other 4 mates. Yes it feels awful to be punished twice : once by being kicked and twice with a deserter debuff.

Perhaps you should learn from your mistakes. It is in there because in the past people did abuse the system in this manner.

Take the restored tablet to Hermit Ortell in Silithus. https://wow.gamepedia.com/The_Deserter?oldid=5194673. [Restored Twilight Tablet] (provided) Description. I also tried to ask the raid to kick me but I got the debuff anyways. https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Dungeon_Deserter?oldid=2623232. It isn’t always a good system but we’ve been through just about every other iteration on the system over the course of the last 10 or so years and this is the least worst option. So let me get this straight. Dungeon Deserter is the debuff a player receives after becoming AFK or prematurely leaving a dungeon.

Maybe because they don’t like the dungeon or whatever. Even the best connections might have some flaws at times. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, World of Warcraft Arena World Championship, Deserter Debuff after getting kicked from an instance.

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It has changed many times since LFD was introduced in 3.3 and this is where it is currently at. Getting Deserter debuff because kicked out is stupid. This topic was automatically closed 30 days after the last reply. Well maybe the group wanted to get rares instead of mindlessly grabbing every sing mob on the way. The whole thread it’s about the debuff one gets after the kick. The game saw a phase when there was no deserter for kicking and it was worse. 5 min grace period for disconnected players only before able to issue a vote kick.

because you could have tactically DC’d with the intent to annoy your other 4 mates.

It’s just very very unlikely to be that way.

It’s 15 years that the game keep changing, and most of the times it’s exactly because of players feedback. Sorry that i dont have time to waste ,waiting for someone to rejoin for 3 more or less minutes. Find the Deserter - WoW Quest overview - World of Warcraft, Wrath of the Lich King, Burning Crusade, WoW, maps, guides, items, quests Take the restored tablet to Hermit Ortell in Silithus.

If there is no deserter buff, people demand to be removed from groups, sitting down and refusing to move until you get rid of them. Other people might not think the same.

Who are you? Take the restored tablet with you and seek out Ortell. It used to be in WoTLK, when the system was 1st introduced. I had a DC because my connection dropped for 3 minutes. Your suggestion won’t change game for the better. You abandoned a dungeon and must wait before using the Dungeon Finder again. Lol… This is another not thought-through aspect of the game, the list is endless. So what’s the point of punishing the majority, when only the minority of the players are the cause of the issue? I’ve never been rude to anyone here.

Alisonia: get D/C’d from your service and now I can’t do what I signed into the game to do for 30 minutes. Like if people could control that. Word has it he hid in the mountains south of Southwind Village, where he lives as a hermit. To stop this rampant abuse of the system Blizz implemented it so that if you leave a group, for any reason, before the first Boss is downed then you get the deserter debuff. Also dungeon deserter apply only until first boss is killed, so not a big window of time. You were able to even detect people doing it on purpose, when you got random dungeon they did not like. You must be with Cenarion Hold.

You can’t change the game cause you were unlucky once. you’re a hypocrite, and a rude one to boot. And usually, in my experience, people that have that way of thinking are the real toxic ones. Here you can talk about the most popular free-to-play multiplayer games including World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Age of Conan, Counter-Strike, Dota 2, and much more. But keep in mind that a DC might happen at any point of the dungeon run, when on the other hand a lame player can play around this knowledge, and start being lame after the first boss kill. All those ones that have no qualms about deliberately ruining other people’s fun by mass pulling or afk’ing at the entrance etc because there is a punishment, deserter debuff, if they leave but if they make other people’s lives such a misery that they have no option other than to kick them they get away Scot free. I’m sure Blizzard can do better of what’s actually implemented in the game. New replies are no longer allowed. A whole 30 minutes eh, hey ho. This page was last edited on 13 September 2018, at 00:34. You weren't followed, were you? There are rumors of a Twilight's Hammer member called Ortell having deserted his sect. Read more here.

You can’t really know if the person that went offline dc, alt f4 or whatever. Or both. and yet youre perfectly fine with wasting 4 other peoples 3 minutes because you’ve a poor internet connection (knowing this, going in). Sorry I just can’t agree with your way of thinking like at all. Pouljikhan-alexstrasza (Pouljikhan) 14 November 2018 03:13 #8. That is why there is the deserter debuff on kicks now as well.

I see you're familiar with my old organization. No, but I can assume on a statistical base that most of the times, when somebody has a DC, it is just because they actually had a DC and not because they’re trying to be lame towards other players.

Deserter debuff after being kicked out form an instance really needs to be removed or reworked. And at that point, they wouldn’t even get punished from this system if not with a simple kick.

But you know what’s rude other than wrong? Speak! So yes, Blizzard had to do this because we as players gave them reason to. It is the least worst option on the table. Really? And when I say 3 minutes, I mean 3 minutes, literally. Perhaps you can enlist his help in deciphering the tablet.

I had a DC because my connection dropped for 3 minutes. Plenty of people do it, cos that’s what some people are like. The current situation is thus a sad collateral damage for the fact that many people are jerks.

Let’s imagine there are 3 people suspected of murder, but in reality only 2 of them are guilty. Prerequisites. It’s unfortunate you got a d/c, some groups will wait, others don’t. Assuming that most of the other players are lame individuals with the only intent of ruining other peoples game experience. Other players votekicked me and now not only I need to wait some time to find another group, I also need to wait 30 minutes for the debuff to drop. Also, we are not talking about the fact that I got kicked here.

I know, it sucks because it happened to you but just think of all those other players out there who aren’t as nice as you. Must complete [56] The Twilight Mystery.

The current situation is thus a sad collateral damage for the fact that many people are jerks, You can explain anything with that argument tbh.

Just doesn't seem right. Id rather the very occassional innocent, like you claim to be, get done and the vast majority of griefers/tossers get done as well, rather than the tossers get away with it ….

So maybe fix your connectivity issues instead? Also the issue we are talking about may happen like once a month probably or even less, don’t really think it is worth a change to be honest.

How did you find me? Now a whole group is a victim because you are semi AFK by having connection issues. lets face it, theres a lot more unpleasant players that deserve it than decent innocent ones who don’t.

The fact that I had a DC? Come closer, perhaps we can be of mutual assistance.

Back when you only got deserter debuff for leaving a group of your own volition then people would either AFK at the entrance, mass pull or aft-F4 so they would be kicked without getting the debuff.


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